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BFFs Kathy Tu and Tobin Low are super queer, super fun and ready to take over your podcast feed. Join them for provocative stories and frank conversations about the LGBTQ experience today. Because everyone’s a little bit gay. WNYC Studios is the producer of other podcasts including Radiolab, Death, Sex & Money, 2 Dope Queens and many others.

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Kathy's mom didn't expect anyone would actually listen to her the first time Kathy recorded their conversation. And she's still not particularly comfortable with all this gay stuff. This bonus episode is part of a series revisiting episodes from our first two seasons. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Benedek ("CRUZIN").

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#48: Five Simple Steps



Traveling to Taiwan with her mom, Kathy imagines the life she might have lived had her family stayed. Kathy's mom previously appeared on Nancy in the episodes "Hello hello" and "Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All This." Guo Mama works at the Taiwan Tongzhi Hotline Association in Taipei. Li Te-Yun (Nan Gua) is a singer-songwriter in Taiwan. Special thanks to Andrew Ryan, a host and producer with Radio Taiwan International. Content warning: This episode contains a reference to suicide. This is the last episode of our third season. Stay in touch with Tobin, Kathy, and the whole Nancy community by joining our "Friends of Nancy" Facebook group. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Art of Escapism ("Done with Disco"), Uncan ("Unbroken"), and Little Glass Men ("Cloud Launching"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#47: Cumming to America



Alan Cumming, who starred as the emcee in the Broadway classic "Cabaret," returns to the stage with a cabaret act called "Legal Immigrant." It's running this month at Cafe Carlyle and Joe's Pub. Patti O'Furniture hosts a weekly drag show at PT's 1109, a gay bar in Columbia, South Carolina. Lewis Wallace is a radio producer and magazine editor. Note: We recorded our conversation with Alan Cumming in May, before the situation on the border escalated. Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#46: Take the Long Way Home



Queer Eye superfan Dennis Low (aka Tobin's Dad) returns to Nancy to chat about the Netflix reboot of the series. Queer Eye's second season came out on Friday. Katie Schlechter is a freelance journalist based in Mexico City. Last summer, shortly after her mother's death, she drove across the United States with her father. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with original composition and performance by Kyle Sanna. Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#45: Peppermint 2020



Tobin is on a quest to convince his coworkers that RuPaul's Drag Race is more than meets the eye. With expert help from Mathew Rodriguez and Mackenzie Cole. Plus, a conversation with drag trailblazer Peppermint, who's making history as the first trans woman to originate a principal role on Broadway in the new Go-Go's-inspired musical Head Over Heels. Join us Saturday, June 16 for the first-ever Big Queer Pod Fest, a live show at the Bell House in Brooklyn featuring Nancy, Food 4 Thot, Making Gay History, and LGBTQ&A. Proceeds go to The Trevor Project. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Mystery Mammal ("Xanadont"), Broke for Free ("Hella"), Benedek ("Cruzin"), and Lee Rosevere ("Welcome to the World of the Living"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

Content warning: This episode discusses sexual assault. Most jokes about rape are terrible. But in a new special, comedian Cameron Esposito is using them to talk about being a survivor of sexual assault.  Cameron's special "Rape Jokes" comes out June 11. You can stream it for free on her website or purchase a copy with all proceeds going to RAINN, the United States’ largest organization combatting sexual violence. You can find resources for survivors of sexual violence at RAINN, End Rape on Campus, and the Trevor Project. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Drake Stafford ("Casets"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#43: Poor Unfortunate Souls



Everybody loves a hero. But villains can be much more interesting.  Meredith Talusan is the Executive Editor at Them. She wrote an essay about trans villains in film for BuzzFeed. Dan Kois and Isaac Butler are co-authors of The World Only Spins Forward, an oral history of Angels in America. Andrea Bernstein is the co-host of Trump, Inc., a podcast about the Trump family business from WNYC Studios and Pro Publica. Stephen Spinella plays Roy Cohn in the Berkeley Rep production of Angels in America. Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Lee Rosevere ("I Was Waiting for Him" and "Featherlight"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#42: We Can Be Friends



Nancy's "How to Get a Gaggle" project gave listeners four weeks of challenges toward making new friends. This week on the show, we check in on how it all went. You can still sign up for the Gaggle project - you'll get four weeks of coaching and challenges over email. Plus be sure to check out our new Facebook group for Nancy listeners. Special thanks this week to friendship guinea pig Joe Rodriguez and WNYC engagement project extraordinaire Charlotte Cooper. The next Queer Soup Night happens on June 10 in Brooklyn.  Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by James Pants ("Bird"), Madame Rrose Selavy ("Sojou Meu Nome"), Mystery Mammal ("Xanadont"), Ondrosik ("Love is Over"), and Anamorphic Orchestra ("Machine Elves"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#41: You're Not a 'Bad Gay'



John Paul Brammer wrote the column "Hola Papi" for Into; he's now a staff writer at Them. Want advice from Nancy? Email your question (ideally as a voice memo) to Original music by Jeremy Bloom. Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#40: dilDOs and dilDON'Ts



Sex toys can be about more than just pleasure. For queer people, they're often a vital part of figuring yourself out. Gabe Gonzalez is a comedian and writer. Buck Angel is a trans advocate and sex toy designer. Special thanks to Hallie Lieberman, author of the book Buzz: The Stimulating History of the Sex Toy.  Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by James Pants ("Bird") and Kevin MacLeod ("Off to Osaka"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at

#39: The Rowan County Clerk



Kim Davis denied David Ermold a marriage license three times. Now he's running to replace her. Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Andy Cohen ("Land of Legs"), Nctrnm ("Blonde"), and Drake Stafford ("Only Love"). Democratic forum audio via WIVY and WMKY. Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at